{"id":254,"date":"2016-02-08T10:00:35","date_gmt":"2016-02-08T10:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/manther.de\/?p=254"},"modified":"2022-05-24T16:32:35","modified_gmt":"2022-05-24T14:32:35","slug":"d-h-lawrence-und-die-erotik","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/manther.de\/en\/2016\/02\/d-h-lawrence-und-die-erotik\/","title":{"rendered":"D. H. LAWRENCE AND THE EROTIC"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/manther.de\/2016\/02\/der-geschmack-des-cunilingus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Yesterday<\/a>, as I was searching for the Erica Jong quote about cunnilingus, I came across a wonderful sentence of hers that I don&#8217;t want to deprive you of:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;For as long as anyone can remember, books have been written with semen, not menstrual blood. Until I was 21, I measured my orgasms against those of Lady Chatterley and wondered what was wrong with me. Did it ever occur to me that Lady Chatterley was really a man? That she was really D. H. Lawrence?&#8221;<br>(Erica Jong: Fear of Flying)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Until the 1930s, erotic literature was dominated by men. They narrated from their point of view and thus defined the status quo of sexual interaction. And of course &#8220;Lady Chatterley&#8221; is a male novel. The fact that he delved further into the <strong>psyche of his female protagonist<\/strong> than any other author ever has does not change that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This may have been less of a literary achievement on Lawrence&#8217;s part than the spirit of the times. <strong>Sigmund Freud<\/strong> had just popularized psychoanalysis, and in intellectual circles it had simply become hip to delve into the psyche. No wonder this also found its way into erotic literature.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Among the people who devoured Lawrence was <strong>Ana\u00efs Nin<\/strong>, then living in Louvecienne near Paris. In the winter of 29\/30, she discovered Lawrence for herself and devoured all his works within a very short time. He became her role model. And so she decided to compile the notes she had made while reading into an essay about Lawrence. According to her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Anais-Nin-Deirdre-Bair\/dp\/0747521352\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">biographer, Deirdre Bair<\/a>, writing about Lawrence marked &#8220;the real beginning of her own search for herself as a writer.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was Lawrence who led her to believe a writer needed to &#8220;hide behind poetic circumlocutions and allusions in order to write about sex.&#8221; With his way of bringing together<strong> intellect, imagination, and bodily sensibility<\/strong>, he became one of the first modern writers to find the courage to call a spade a spade. For society was in a state of flux after the end of World War I &#8211; and Lawrence was one of the first to point this out in his books.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Without a doubt, Lawrence was an epiphany for Nin, a revival experience. And without him, Ana\u00efs Nin would not have become the classic of erotic literature that she is considered today. But I think Erica Jong was well aware of this when she wrote the sentence quoted above about the explicitly male view of Lady Chatterley. Jong, a typical representative of the <strong>Women&#8217;s Lib<\/strong> of the 1970s, wanted to break down walls with her autobiographical, erotic novels and sharpen the view of the difference between male and female perspectives.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She did this by lashing out at anything that reminded her of the old status quo of the battle of the sexes. She ridiculed Sigmund Freud&#8217;s <strong>fixation <\/strong>on women&#8217;s desire for the always erect penis, claiming that this was merely a <strong>transference <\/strong>of Freud&#8217;s own desires. But this did not stop her from praising, a few pages further on, the always erect penis of her lover Alessandro as the ideal state.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this respect, it is questionable whether Erica Jong&#8217;s female gaze was so fundamentally different from a male one, as she so readily points out in her book. On the other hand, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Fear-Flying-Erica-Jong\/dp\/0749396059\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Fear of Flying<\/a>&#8221; at the latest makes it clear that there are <strong>two different approaches to eroticism<\/strong>. Why should we leave it to men to write about our thoughts on sex? Why should we women even read such books by men who pretend to take a female point of view?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marc and I have discussed this topic a lot and decided for us that <strong>Marc will no longer write erotica from a female point of view. Neither will I try to describe what goes on in men.<\/strong> The question of whether there is a specifically female and male eroticism will certainly occupy us for some time. We will keep you posted here on the progress of our discussions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All the best to you,<br>Sandra<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>PS: Meanwhile, Marc is working on his series about casting shows, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/dp\/B0866B8KFW\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Erotic Actress Talent Search<\/a>,&#8221; in which women are again the protagonists. I am not happy about this development, but I have to accept it. I know how important the subject is to him &#8211; and like him, I think it reflects a phenomenon of our time and should therefore be dealt with in fiction.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, as I was searching for the Erica Jong quote about cunnilingus, I came across a wonderful sentence of hers that I don&#8217;t want to deprive you of: &#8220;For as long as anyone can remember, books have been written with semen, not menstrual blood. Until I was 21, I measured my orgasms against those of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/manther.de\/en\/2016\/02\/d-h-lawrence-und-die-erotik\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">D. H. 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